He took over as the chairman and managing director of the
country’s most profitable company Oil and Natural Gas
Corporation (ONGC) on March 1. Before this, Dinesh K
Sarraf was the managing director of ONGC’s overseas arm,
ONGC Videsh Ltd. He has replaced Sudhir Vasudeva who
was denied a post-retirement one-year extension of service
even though oil minister M Veerappa Moily had strongly
pitched for it. Following are some extracts from his media
interaction as ONGC’s new boss.
Sarraf says his priorities are clear. He
wants to bring the promising block
in the Krishna Godavari (KG) basin
to production. This deep-water block
lies north of the basin next to Reliance
Industries’ KG-D6 block and has reserves
of roughly two trillion cubic feet of gas
and 117 million metric tonne of oil. “We
are expecting peak production of 25-30
million metric standard cubic meters per
day (mmscmd) gas and 70,000 barrels of
oil every day,” he says.
What gas price hike means
for ONGC.
As per Sarraf, revenues of ONGC will
grow by Rs 16,000 crore and net profit
by nearly Rs 9,600 crore when domestic
gas prices will increase to $8 per unit
from $4.2 per unit. However, most of this
additional revenue would flow back to
the government, the company’s largest
shareholder, in the form of higher taxes,
royalty and dividend and the company’s
net retention will be Rs 5,200 crore,
when the price rise happens.
The new CMD says while the price
of $8 per unit appears to be substantial,
it is not sufficient to make all discoveries
by ONGC viable. There were still few
discoveries in the Mahanadi basin that
are not viable at this price and would
need a higher price of around $11 a unit,
he adds. “Some of the gas may not be
produced even at $8 a unit and will be
monetised at a later stage,” he says.
On claims made by Aam Aadmi
Party (AAP) that the cost of gas
production is just $1.
“The cost of production is difficult to
directly say (as it varies from field to
field, depending on components such
as the size of the field, whether it is
deepwater or onshore, etc). Also for a
producing field, it would be very less.”
There is no fixed cost of production and
the average for a gas field is $3-4 per
unit. ONGC’s cost of gas production
is about $4 per unit and the company
“hardly makes any profit” at $4.2 rate,
says Sarraf.
On increasing domestic
production.
Sarraf also counters allegations
that ONGC is not doing enough to
increase production and says it has
been increasing at around 8 per cent.
ONGC expects a peak gas output of
25-30 million standard cubic metres
per day (mscmd) from its block off the
East Coast. Gas production from the
deepwater block in the Krishna-Godavari
basin will begin in 2017.
On the government’s decision to
ask ONGC to pick up a 5 per cent
stake in sister oil PSU Indian Oil
Corporation (IOC).
“I was for picking up the entire 10 per
cent which is now being shared equally
by ONGC and Oil India Ltd (OIL). We
should have picked up at least 7 per cent
as I am very upbeat on IOC,” says Sarraf.
On the ongoing issue with RIL about
reservoir ‘connectivity’ of their adjacent
blocks in the East Coast, ONGC’s
director (exploration), NK Verma
adds,“We have shared data, which is an international practice. It is apparent that
a shift has happened, but it needs to be
assessed.” ONGC wants a third-party
expert to handle the assessment.
On the ongoing issue with RIL about
reservoir ‘connectivity’ of their adjacent
blocks in the East Coast, ONGC’s
director (exploration), NK Verma
adds,“We have shared data, which is an international practice. It is apparent that
a shift has happened, but it needs to be
assessed.” ONGC wants a third-party
expert to handle the assessment.
Sarraf says he is perhaps lucky
that, as he joined as CMD, ONGC
is in a slightly better position. The
government has worked out a subsidy
reduction plan for oil companies.
With continuous increase in diesel
prices, upstream companies such as
ONGC need to pay less discounts to oil
marketing companies like Indian Oil.
On OVL’s decision to buy Imperial
Energy subsidiary in Russia.
Sarraf is hopeful of an improvement in
OVL’s operations. The first could be a
turnaround at OVL’s Imperial Energy
subsidiary in Russia. Imperial Energy
was performing poorly, as commercial
production from its blocks in Tomsk
region in Western Siberia fell to just
8,000 barrels. According to the results
declared by OVL in 2012-13, total
production from the blocks under
Imperial Energy was 0.631 million
tonnes of oil equivalent (oil and gas).
Critics say OVL, which in 2009 bought Imperial at a valuation of
$2.1 billion, made a big mistake.
But Sarraf is optimistic.
“On Monday (March 3), I got a text
message from my colleagues working
there (that) they have successfully
completed fracking in two wells. The
reservoir there is of tight oil, which has
better tax breaks,” he says. Imperial is sitting on the Bazhenov shale
formation, which experts believe could
be the world’s single biggest shale oil
reserve, he says.
“I am convinced that this
new development will lead to a
turnaround,” he says. He adds that
OVL is already taking help from
US-based Liberty Resources, a leader
in the hydro-fracturing technology, to
exploit shale reservoirs.
On production in Sudan and Syria
Our production from South Sudan and
Syria is down. The investments we made
in the last two years might take some
time to materialize.
Sarraf, who as OVL chief was initially
pushing for the unit’s initial public
offering, now says he does not see it
happening in his tenure as ONGC chief
that runs through September 2017.
“Today I don’t see it happening. Maybe
in times to come things might change,”
he says.